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« Reply #15 on: April 27, 2017, 01:51:13 PM »
Those carbs look great.  That's always a ton of work.  Rearend looks good too.

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« Reply #16 on: December 05, 2017, 02:19:53 PM »
At the Shop Night a couple Tuesdays ago, Club members helped pull the engine out of the XS1100.  I have an old punching bag stand on wheels which actually works quite well as an engine hoist.  I picked up the chain hoist for $90 at Princess Auto (on sale).



I will be making the entire frame myself; it will be 1.25 inch DOM tubing.  Picked up a bunch today.



I also had the wheels sand blasted.



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« Reply #17 on: December 11, 2017, 10:21:17 AM »
To get at the neck stock without a cutting torch and only zip blades on my angle grinder meant cutting off bits at a time. 

This is what I ended up with ....



...after cutting away all this.



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« Reply #18 on: December 15, 2017, 05:24:13 PM »
I ordered some parts and tools today in anticipation of some next steps.

At some point in the not too distant future, I will be having to actually make my disc brakes work.  I had some great tech support from Wilwood Engineering (all things brakes).  After confirming the caliper piston diameter, and the brake lever ratio of 6 to 1, they recommended a 3/4" bore master cylinder.  I ordered this one because there are two mounting options, and it just looks old and simple.



I also ordered a residual pressure valve which will be necessary because I expect the master cylinder to be mounted lower than the calipers (to prevent fluid leaking back because of gravity).



Lastly, and most costly, was a new die for my JD Squared Tubing Bender.  I want to build the back bone part of the frame out of 1.5" tubing.  This will be a single tube so I wanted it a bit larger than the 1.25" that the rest of it is made out of.  However, I don't have a die, so I took the plunge and ordered one from HMS Tools.



I ordered 1.5" tubing from Encore Metals (formerly T&S Tubing and Shafting).  I will only need a few feet of it, but since I just splurged for the new die, I figured I might as well buy the "crop" piece they had in stock which is 15 feet long.
 
I have Jeff working on some small bits for motor mounts, and butt joining tubes.  I hope to have them this weekend so I can get some progress on the lower part of the frame.   

While at Jeff's shop, I got to see the work he is doing on my drive shaft project.  A little tough to describe without pictures, so I'll save that for another post.

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Re: xs1100 Trike
« Reply #19 on: December 16, 2017, 10:08:57 AM »
Jeff lent me a cool tool for painting wheels.



It wasn't level so I made some mods.



Very handy.



Jeff started working on the drive shaft.  He found a Suzuki Samarai that has a universal joint that almost perfectly bolts to the output flange/plate on the XS1100.  However, the output flange/plate needs a little modifying



Lots planned for this weekend.

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Re: xs1100 Trike
« Reply #20 on: December 18, 2017, 12:24:26 PM »
It took a lot of subtle adjustments to get the first two tubes exactly where I wanted them.

First with clamps.



Then tack welded jigs so hopefully I can lift the engine and drop it back exactly where I want it.





The first mounts are tacked in.  These were the easiest because I did not have to move the engine to make them fit.



The remaining mounts will be more complex, because the engine will have to be lifted out and lowered back as I make subtle adjustments (angle grinder) to the mounts.

After all the time spent farting around with getting things lined up just right, I don't want to risk the tubes moving, so I welded on some braces which will be cut off later.





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Re: xs1100 Trike
« Reply #21 on: December 18, 2017, 05:51:17 PM »
Awesome job Dennis, Are we going to have another workshop night to help you with the trike?

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« Reply #22 on: December 19, 2017, 05:13:17 AM »
Enjoying your progress

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Re: xs1100 Trike
« Reply #23 on: December 26, 2017, 09:00:27 PM »
The motor mounts were probably the most complex fabricating I have ever done.  They are all tack welded in place now.









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« Reply #24 on: December 26, 2017, 10:12:45 PM »
   so while the rest of us were eating leftovers and being lazy you got busy....almost makes me feel guilty. CHEERS.

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« Reply #25 on: January 09, 2018, 11:02:35 AM »
Out of the jig.  I used ready rod to stabilize the frame while I completed the welds.





I don't expect too much progress over the next few weekends.  I got a new sled, and my wife prefers sledding over house cleaning while I work in the garage.

My next step will be to modify the engine jig so I can position the engine on the floor at the exact height to get an idea how it will line up with the differential.  I will also have to make a jig to hold the differential at the exact (or close to) the height it will be with tires (I have some flexibility with sidewall height).   The angle of the drive shaft will determine how short I can make it (the drive shaft).  I want the shortest wheel base I can get away with.

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Re: xs1100 Trike
« Reply #26 on: January 15, 2018, 10:03:11 AM »
I got a few hours in on Sunday to work on modifying the engine jig.  This should complete my metal fabricating for awhile, which I was waiting to do before cleaning up the mess.  Metal fabricating is really messy.







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Re: xs1100 Trike
« Reply #27 on: January 22, 2018, 11:01:22 AM »
Dropped by Jeff's and picked up the front universal joint.  It's from a Suzuki Sidekick and was slightly modified (picture earlier in thread).  In the end, Jeff carved out part of the Suzuki piece rather than the output flange.  The rest of the shaft and modified universal joint for the Chevy S-10 differential was still in his lathe.

I needed to check the angles the drive shaft would end up being, since this will determine how short I can go.  After a little mock up, I am convinced I can make this super short.  Probably shorter than I actually will want it.





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Re: xs1100 Trike
« Reply #28 on: February 26, 2018, 03:49:15 PM »
Getting in the odd hour here and there.  Some jobs took a lot of time with little to show for progress.  For example, after I welded up the tack mounted engine mounts, the engine would not quite fit back in.  It appears that the lower front engine mounts caused the tube bends to curve another degree or so, resulting in the upper front motor mounts to be too close to the engine.  I used a hydraulic jack to bend them back ... too far.  Needed a torch and pry bar to get them back. 

These two little holes used to be tapped and the old drum brake backing plate was screwed in.  Totally rusted and seized.  It took a Dremel, multiple drill bits, and hours to carve these out.



I spent the time carving out the holes because the brake caliper mounts were supposed to bolt right up (using at least these two holes).  Not quite.   Looks like I will be doing some more fabricating.



Because of the extra thickness of the brake rotors, I needed longer studs.  The originals were actually metric (interesting since the differential is a 1989 GM).  I opted for 7/16" (common lug nut thread), and bought a set the correct length.



However, the little spliny bit at the base was just not spliny enough, and a couple would spin before the lug nuts were tight.  I looked at some 1/2" studs, but they were too big for my rotors.  In the end I went with cutting a small notch in each, and welding them in place.





Next up is to meet with Jeff to complete the drive shaft.  Jeff wanted a distance from centre to centre of the universal joints, and until I couldn't do another mock up, I could tell him.  I did that as well (18").

I also cut and fitted another frame brace (cross piece in rectangle steel).  It won't be welded in until later after I determine the single back bone tube.  The single back bone tube will run from the neck stock down to this brace, with one bend.  1.5" tubing (the rest is 1.25").



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Re: xs1100 Trike
« Reply #29 on: March 14, 2018, 12:25:47 PM »
After humming and hawing, I just could not come up with a good way of mounting the brake calipers.  I spoke to Jeff who talked me out of some of the Draconian ideas I had (like cut off the mounting bracket already welded to the diff housing and starting over over).  Jeff's idea was to just weld the mounting bracket that came with the kit, to the existing welded on mounting bracket on the diff housing.  Cut and weld as needed.



This picture does not quite show the problem.  The brackets if placed side to side, do not line up.  The brackets that came with kit needed to be machined down about an 1/8" of an inch.

My camera stopped working so I don't have pictures of the screw up.  The short version is we over machined, and now have to shore up with shims.  That's one of the things I love about metal work; it can be very forgiving.

Jeff had to bolt for Movie Night so we did not quite finish.  Hopefully a couple hours on the weekend will do.

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