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stikman

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Basic Cafe Build - 1979 Suzuki GS850
« on: April 15, 2016, 12:26:01 AM »
I picked up this 79 GS850 two days ago for a steal.  Not running, needs reg, plate on the back expired Nov 30, 2007.  I believe it was the last year of the kick starters, so I got lucky there as it allowed me to see if it was seized.  Kicked over fine.  Carbs are there but missing the airbox.  Missing the right side cover as well, otherwise the bike is complete.

My plan for this build is to keep it fairly simple.  Just a basic cafe style without spending any more than I have to while creating a decent looking final product.

I got the bike yesterday and got to work on it.  Tore off the Vetter fairing and the pack bars on the back.  I pulled the float bowl on the #1 carb as a start and to my shock and delight it was utterly clean!  Bonus!  The tank had a few gallons of gas in it, tried the petcock which worked fine, no leaks and the float needles all worked.  Just has a leak from the o-rings on the fuel fitting between #2 and #3 carbs, so I'll need to pull them off eventually.  Of course I didn't want to use that gas, so I hooked up another tank with fresh fuel.  Checked the points and they were pretty well shut, so I gapped those.  Next I unclipped the ignition harness, jumpered the wires (no key), and hooked up jumper cables from a battery in another bike.  After trying the starter button and getting nothing, I moved on to the old screwdriver across the starter solenoid terminals.  That did the trick.  It turned over a bit slow at first as the starter likely hadn't moved in many years.  But after a couple tries it sped up to a more normal speed.  I wasn't getting even a sputter, though.  The choke cable had been disconnected, so I moved the choke by hand at the carbs and boom! she fired right up!  What a delightful sound.  Warmed it up a little, seems solid, likely just a bit lean without an air filter.

That was a good ending to day 1.





Which brings me to day 2, today.  Now that I know the motor is good, I got to work on the aesthetics of the build.  I took a set of dirtbike bars I had kicking around from a DT125 that Brad flogged off on me, and trimmed out the center brace.  Flipped them upside down and mounted them up.  That'll work, just need a solid cleanup and paint.



Next I got to work on the tank.  It was pretty beat up, so I decided to just work with what it is and hammer in some knee inserts.  I grabbed an egg mallet and got to it.  Because of the existing dents, I was forced to bring the knee inserts further forward than I'd like, which interfered with the tank badge mounts but I'll make it work.







In between my little 20 gallon air compressor filling up, I got to work a bit on the seat.  Took apart the rear cowl and pulled the seat off and apart.  I plan to cut the seat pan shorter and mount the cowl further forward to get rid of the passenger seat.



Got one coat of filler on and sanded, and finished the day with a second skim of filler.  Still needs quite a bit of sanding and shaping but the base is good.


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Kaw-meister

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Re: Basic Cafe Build - 1979 Suzuki GS850
« Reply #1 on: April 15, 2016, 06:45:13 AM »
That is some bad ass hammer skills you have, care to have a garage night and give us a lesson?

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Re: Basic Cafe Build - 1979 Suzuki GS850
« Reply #2 on: April 15, 2016, 09:19:09 AM »
Great underrated bikes...

personal message sent.....

stikman

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Re: Basic Cafe Build - 1979 Suzuki GS850
« Reply #3 on: April 15, 2016, 11:31:34 AM »
Thanks Paul.  Hammering the inserts is pretty simple really, it's filler that takes the real time and effort.  Here's a 5 minute explanation of hammering knee inserts by Carpy (just keep your fingers on the volume): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUpQZ1D3W_w

Besides, my garage is only 12' x 20' and has 4 bikes in it atm.  I can barely get around in it myself. ;D

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Re: Basic Cafe Build - 1979 Suzuki GS850
« Reply #4 on: April 15, 2016, 12:18:33 PM »
Excellent.  I'm in the "do what it takes to make it come back to life" camp as opposed to the pristine restoration camp.

I'm not sure what your experience is with getting bikes registered, but if you need assistance, let me know.  I've done it a zillion times now.

Peace & Grease, Dennis.

stikman

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Re: Basic Cafe Build - 1979 Suzuki GS850
« Reply #5 on: April 15, 2016, 01:11:50 PM »
I appreciate the offer, Dennis.  I'm actually in the middle of the reg process for the first time with 4 of my cb frames and was considering coming to you for the notarization aspect, if you're willing.  Let me know if you're down and what you'd want in return.

I'd have to say I've got a foot in both camps, and a third in the chop camp.  :P

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« Reply #6 on: April 15, 2016, 02:42:33 PM »
I appreciate the offer, Dennis.  I'm actually in the middle of the reg process for the first time with 4 of my cb frames and was considering coming to you for the notarization aspect, if you're willing.  Let me know if you're down and what you'd want in return.

I'd have to say I've got a foot in both camps, and a third in the chop camp.  :P

Usually some beer.  Take a good photo of the frame with the neck tube numbers.  Bring any documents you may have got from the seller.   Email me at dennis@dms-law.ca and we'll set up a time.

stikman

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Re: Basic Cafe Build - 1979 Suzuki GS850
« Reply #7 on: April 15, 2016, 06:16:29 PM »
Right, sent you a mail, Dennis.

Got the vehicle reg search request letter and cheque mailed off to ICBC today, so should heard back about it soon.

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Re: Basic Cafe Build - 1979 Suzuki GS850
« Reply #8 on: April 15, 2016, 09:54:36 PM »
  Good find! Traded my gs 1000 for a snowmobile engine rebuild (labor only) because the owner thought it had a blown head gasket. Needed more than yours and currently owes me about 1500. Mine was inspired by one that Dennis did. On his he retained the tail light and cowling and moved it forward, then created a solo seat. Low buck and bitchin! Dont know if he has pictures but ask him when you meet about regs. Can't wait to see the end results or pictures of the red chopper. CHEERS.

stikman

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Re: Basic Cafe Build - 1979 Suzuki GS850
« Reply #9 on: April 16, 2016, 08:21:14 PM »
Made some good progress today.  Started with the tank.  More sanding and shaping.  Got most of the areas shaped properly.  Still quite a bit of work left on it to get it wrinkle-free and smooth.



Got sick of sanding and moved onto the rear frame section.  I measured it up and cut off the ends of the frame rails, cut the frame brace out, and welded it forward on the frame.



Next I took a look at the pipes.  Earlier I had noticed some rusting in the mufflers, so I checked out what was left of them and made a decision where to cut them off.  Got a nice load of rust debris out of them.





Would've been nice to keep the full length, but it'll still look decent enough.



I spent some time on the front fender.  Decided on front and rear lengths and shapes, and cut them down.


I made the back half of the fender a touch longer as that's where the most water will spray up from.  I also measured and drilled new mounting holes to drop the fender 3/4" closer to the tire.  To end the day off I checked the psi in the front forks and, since they were well low, I pumped them back up.  Here's how it's looking so far.  Not bad for day 4.


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Re: Basic Cafe Build - 1979 Suzuki GS850
« Reply #10 on: April 17, 2016, 10:46:59 PM »
Day 5.  Just spent some time on the cowl. 
The plastic was cracked all over the place and I couldn't mount the taillight in it properly, making mock ups annoying.  So I got that all epoxied up and solid again.






Also removed the chrome trim and scraped off the excessive amount of glue.  Haven't decided if I want to retain the stock reflectors or shave them.  Leaning toward shave because I don't have enough sanding to do on the tank already.  :P


I wasted a bunch of time re-bending the big stock mounting bracket for the cowl, but decided not to use it in the end anyway because it was ugly and completely visible.

stikman

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Re: Basic Cafe Build - 1979 Suzuki GS850
« Reply #11 on: April 21, 2016, 12:01:47 AM »
Been busy this week with work and other bikes.  But I got a new battery for the GS850 charged up and installed.  Also changed the oil and filter tonight.  Fires right up, but still need to either jumper the starter solenoid terminals or kick it.  So a solenoid is certainly on the list.  Running pretty lean without the mufflers or air filters, so I'll need to drop a float bowl, pull a main jet, and order some larger jets.  Received the pod filters but they are the wrong size.  Guess I need to just measure them and order the right size.

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Re: Basic Cafe Build - 1979 Suzuki GS850
« Reply #12 on: April 27, 2017, 01:57:15 PM »
Haven't really touched this build in the past week...   ;D


Okay, add a year to that.  But as we all know, that's what happens when you have too many projects.  Should be getting back at this one soon though, I promise.

Kaw-meister

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Re: Basic Cafe Build - 1979 Suzuki GS850
« Reply #13 on: May 15, 2017, 06:53:16 AM »
would you care to disclose the Epoxy info that you used on the plastics?

stikman

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Re: Basic Cafe Build - 1979 Suzuki GS850
« Reply #14 on: May 18, 2017, 12:02:30 AM »
would you care to disclose the Epoxy info that you used on the plastics?

I can't remember now tbh, but it was a 2 part epoxy.  Might've just been JB weld.